Check this thread out.

[rooferman]

Is it possible that the 2 door Ra exists..?????????

The official Bloodline either has a typo or is wrong........as the code GC8E27D does not exist...??????

But this guy is clearly selling a car with the above Model code...:confused: Which exists on all other sites ie Sidc/Katherine and Ken Scoobynet...????

Nice motor btw...:D

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/private-sale-cars-352/679096-my98-wrx-type-r-ra-v-limited-045-1000-a.html#post7786262

[jodie]

what car??? what page on SN ;)

found it i see what you mean .

Rooferman what about (Rikimaru)? he stays in toyko he might be able to contact subaru (lets hope he seen this post)

[millsy]

wow i have number 44 and my freind has just imported number 116:) :)

[Rikimaru]

I'll see if i can get hold of Subaru Japan and get an answer, but i know one thing for sure; there is no reliable listing that i have ever found anywhere for a 2 door RA and i have never, ever seen one on the road or for sale here in Japan. We check the classifieds and Car Sensor regularly just to see whats available so if they existed I'm sure We'd have come across one by now. I am however willing to be proved wrong, but can't see it.

I'll let you know when (if) they get back to me.

[Rikimaru]

Just read the thread, and not only does the car have a big old Type R sticker on the back, but it is so rare that only 1000 were made.:confused:

[jodie]

well lets hope subaru get back to ya and put this 2door RA mith to bed...
must say when i firts seen it i thought type R v ltd streight away as it as the rear whiper ...
anyway lets hope we get an outcome

[DPI]

I think the outcome is obvious.

Guy is a dick, he posted a pic of the 0045/1000 V-Limited Type R plate, yet states it's not a V-Limited Type R.

Not only is it not as rare as he states, being one of 1000, it's not even half as rare as my car...:D

Anyone notice from the picture of the ID plate, that it's been removed and re-riveted on...

[Rikimaru]

I think the outcome is obvious.

Guy is a dick, he posted a pic of the 0045/1000 V-Limited Type R plate, yet states it's not a V-Limited Type R.

Not only is it not as rare as he states, being one of 1000, it's not even half as rare as my car...:D

Anyone notice from the picture of the ID plate, that it's been removed and re-riveted on...

I'm inclined to agree. His only response to being confronted is sarcasm and insult. Has nothing to back up his claims but a few "buddys" who may or may not know what they are talking about. No facts whatsoever and only a dodgy looking ID plate (i re-checked the pics and you are right). Seems to me the guy is getting his knickers in a twist coz his Ego is about to take a battering.

That said, if i'm proved wrong i will as i said eat humble pie.

[DPI]

As a member of other SUBARU sites, and a (sometime) motoring jurno, as well as a Subaru fan and owner for almost 10 years, i have never heard of, or seen any evidence of, a 2 door RA.
I am aware that the factory had no mention of such a model, nor do any of the many books on the subject.

Many people, over the years, have touted their cars as limited editons (so limited, even the people who made them have never heard of them), only to be shown to be the owner of a run of the mill factory vehicle.

It is not particuarily important, what these idiots think, until they try to sell these cars to unsuspecting buyers who think they are getting something they are not.

[rooferman]

wow i have number 44 and my freind has just imported number 116:) :)


Whats the applied model code on yours Milsy......does it end E27D???

[scoob]

Its a Type R V-Limited
it even has the v-limited number?
How many RAs have no water spray, color coded mirrors and a rear wiper?
:???:

[gus]

Have to agree with the ID plate, correct me if Im wrong but im sure most imports have subaru stamped into the head off the rivet on the id plate well mine has.

[Rikimaru]

Still waiting on Subaru. Might send 'em another mail tomorrow evening if I've heard nothing by then.

[rooferman]

Would be nice to get an answer from Subaru themselves......

I still think its an "r" as it is badged as one.....if Subaru marketed it as a 2 door ra then surely it would have the "ra" sticker on the rear????

Even down to the passenger handles on interior of roof ????i know mine does not have these and a mates sti type r does.

The front fogs,the rear wipe,waterspray(lack off)even the roof vent is not standard on the wrx ra(non sti)

The bit that puzzles me is the Subaru official model codes and the lack of GC8E27D:confused:

Lets hope we are correct....for Richy B,s sake..Lol.;)

[WhiteRAman]

It would be interesting to have a look at a picture of the front seats.
If it is what I (and most other people) think it is, a WRX TypeR V-limited, then it should have the championship embroidery on the seats.

[Rikimaru]

Not got the "official" Subaru reply yet, but have got a message from a guy that does work for them and is a Type RA enthusiast himself and this is what he has to say;

22BとかTypeRにRAﾊﾟｰﾂ付けたとかじゃないですかね？知り合いがVer5TypeRにﾍﾞﾝﾁ ﾚｰﾀｰつけてTypeRA風にしてましたよ。たまに中古車でもみます。
Translation:
(Type R owners often Remodel their cars to look like a Type RA or 22B. For example with the addition of the roof vent. In japan this car is advertised as a Type R in an RA style (that bit is tough to translate directly. sorry!). This type of car can sometimes be seen at second hand car shops in Japan, but is advertised as a Type R + RA parts.)

Another guy on a Type RA community site had this response about this situation;

限定にしろ改造にしろ、２ドアのｔｙｐｅＲＡの公式な市販は当時から聞いたことがありません。
２ドアであればｔｙｐｅＲ、ｔｙｐｅＲＡであれば４ドア、しか市販されてません。

スナッポン改さんがおっしゃっておられる通り、前のオーナーが改造されたものか、売り出しているほうの勘違 い(?!)だと思います。
Translation:
(Anyway, officially there has never been a 2 door Type RA.

[Regarding this case] It seems to me a previous owner has remodeled their Type R with Type RA parts to look like a Type RA, so the seller [of the scoobynet car] may have made a genuine mistake.)


I'm gonna wait for the official response from Subaru before i post on Scoobynet, but the more info that turns up, the more like bullshit the whole 2 door RA myth seems to be. I just hope nobody pays over the odds for the car. Is a nice car, though not what it is being advertised as.

[type-ra]

Looks like we may be close to finalising the 2 door RA myth once and for all..........

[Rikimaru]

Finally got the reply from Subaru. The guy on Scoobynet and all his 'expert' supporters are talking nonsense to a man. Subaru have confirmed that there was never a JDM 2 door Type RA. ALL 2 door models are Type R's and no Ltd run of 'special' 2 door RA's was made at any time.

However, Australia did get a special car based on the '99 WRX STi Type R version 5. The E-mail is unclear on what exactly this is but seems likely it was simply a Ltd run Type R made available to the Australian market where they had not been available previously (perhaps similar to the P1 in the UK in an attempt to stop grey imports).

Still leaves some questions, but at least we can categorically say that the car in the thread in post one is what we all thought; a Type R V Ltd.

[rooferman]

Shame that it does not explain the applied model code.....GC8E27D..????

But i think we all knew it was a Type r base car and not an Ra..

[Rikimaru]

We have sent another mail about the applied model code as that is still bugging me. Some sites list it as a Type R V-Ltd, Some as a WRX RA V-Limited 2 door (Special edition 2 door RA) and some (including subaru Japan themselves) don't list it at all.

Seems to me there is a slim possibilty this car may exist, but it certainly isn't a JDM model. Hopefully Subaru will get back to me with a definitive answer.

[rooferman]

We have sent another mail about the applied model code as that is still bugging me. Some sites list it as a Type R V-Ltd, Some as a WRX RA V-Limited 2 door (Special edition 2 door RA) and some (including subaru Japan themselves) don't list it at all.

Seems to me there is a slim possibilty this car may exist, but it certainly isn't a JDM model. Hopefully Subaru will get back to me with a definitive answer.


Good work Rikimaru.....:cool:

[MYR58U]

However, Australia did get a special car based on the '99 WRX STi Type R version 5. The E-mail is unclear on what exactly this is but seems likely it was simply a Ltd run Type R made available to the Australian market where they had not been available previously

G'day, I can confirm that Australia did get 400 2dr V5 STi back in the day, but i didn't think they were "Type R" versions or anything like that. Had a VF28 turbo and full interior, etc. The next year (2000 I think) Subaru Oz imported 400 V6 STi sedans which I think had VF29 turbos. These 2 batches of GC8 STis (800 in total) were the only STi models to be sold new by Subaru in Australia until the 2002 Bugeye model was released here as a commonly available car.

There are less than 300 of the 2drs left on our roads now (1 was accidentally driven into Sydney Harbour at the launch and destroyed!) and both the sedans and the coupes had major problems destroying engines as they weren't retuned to run on our 95/98RON fuel (down from the 100RON they ran in Japan).

Hope that helps :)

Cheers,
Iain

[Rikimaru]

Cheers chap,

Confirms what Subaru said. Seems like it may have been a similar deal to the P1 in the UK then, though obviously without the Prodrive involvement.

Thanks a lot.

Wayne.

[MYR58U]

Here is what the V6 4dr looked like
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/SUBARU/IMPREZA/details.aspx?__Ntk=CarAll&__D=STi&__Dx=mode+matchany&State=All%20States&Cr=4&state_id=0&keywords=STi&R=5614724&__N=4294963801+0+506+548+4294963800+834+285+257&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&__Ntt=STi&trecs=146&__Nne=20&__Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&silo=1003&__sid=1173A0201CA3&Model=IMPREZA&seot=0&Make=SUBARU (http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/SUBARU/IMPREZA/details.aspx?__Ntk=CarAll&__D=STi&__Dx=mode+matchany&State=All%20States&Cr=4&state_id=0&keywords=STi&R=5614724&__N=4294963801+0+506+548+4294963800+834+285+257&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&__Ntt=STi&trecs=146&__Nne=20&__Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&silo=1003&__sid=1173A0201CA3&Model=IMPREZA&seot=0&Make=SUBARU)

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/SUBARU/IMPREZA/details.aspx?__Ntk=CarAll&__D=STi&__Dx=mode+matchany&State=All%20States&Cr=2&state_id=0&keywords=STi&R=5445256&__N=4294963801+0+506+548+4294963800+4294932040+429 4928477+4294931680+4294930040+834+285+257&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&__Ntt=STi&trecs=36&__Nne=20&__Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&silo=1003&__sid=1173A0201CA3&Model=IMPREZA&seot=0&Make=SUBARU


V5 2dr
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/SUBARU/IMPREZA/details.aspx?__Ntk=CarAll&__D=STi&__Dx=mode+matchany&State=All%20States&Cr=12&state_id=0&keywords=STi&R=5595445&__N=4294963801+0+506+548+4294963800+4294932040+429 4928477+4294931680+4294930040+834+285+257&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&__Ntt=STi&trecs=36&__Nne=20&__Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&silo=1003&__sid=1173A0201CA3&Model=IMPREZA&seot=0&Make=SUBARU

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/SUBARU/IMPREZA/details.aspx?__Ntk=CarAll&__D=STi&__Dx=mode+matchany&State=All%20States&Cr=5&state_id=0&keywords=STi&R=1878257&__N=4294963801+0+506+548+4294963800+4294932040+429 4928477+4294931680+4294930040+834+285+257&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&__Ntt=STi&trecs=36&__Nne=20&__Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&silo=1003&__sid=1173A0201CA3&Model=IMPREZA&seot=0&Make=SUBARU

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/SUBARU/IMPREZA/details.aspx?__Ntk=CarAll&__D=STi&__Dx=mode+matchany&State=All%20States&Cr=9&state_id=0&keywords=STi&R=5289788&__N=4294963801+0+506+548+4294963800+4294932040+429 4928477+4294931680+4294930040+834+285+257&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&__Ntt=STi&trecs=36&__Nne=20&__Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&silo=1003&__sid=1173A0201CA3&Model=IMPREZA&seot=0&Make=SUBARU

[Lee_1075]

Hi there, first off a quick intro:

Im Lee from Germany, born and raised in Telscombe Cliffs (e.sussex) and currently driving a German Spec Impreza GT with roughly 320bhp.

Im more than intrested in buying the car thats in this thread, although im a little worried about its "origin", going by this thread i now understand that there is no such thing as a classic Type RA-R.

What gets me is in the S.Net thread its stated as being a WRX - V-limited with 280 BHP, i thought only Sti´s had that amount of power :confused:

Also being a V-limited there were only 1000 produced, but how many of those were 2 door WRX´s (non Sti´s) ?? The ID tag being loose also seems strange.
Does anone here know the original specs for these cars, i.e what Turbo should be on it / Gearbox code etc etc.

Basicly im asking these questions, because of the trip to England isnt done in 5 mins and i dont want to risk buying a shed / non- original car really. Also the German laws on registering an import are very tough i couldnt get a classic Sti registered over here, well i could at a cost of around 5-7k, but the WRX would be eaiser.

Many thanks

Lee

[Rikimaru]

Hi Lee,

I can deal with a couple of your questions quickly now. In 1997 there was a WRX Type-R with 280 Bhp (version 4). In fact from the Version 3's onwards (i think), peak power was same for WRX/STi but torque was a lower on the WRX and the engine internals were not as robust as the STi. So on that at least the seller is spot on.

As for the number made, 1000 WRX Type R Ltd's were made for the Version IV this car is smiply one ot them. Still a great car but not the rarity he makes out by any means.

As for turbo/gearbox code etc I'd need to dig around but I'm at work at the moment so typing on the sly.;)

Tbh, it seems to me he is charging a premium for a car that so far as we know doesn't even exist. Still waiting for confirmation from Subaru on the Applied Model Code, but Subaru have already confirmed they never made any 2 door that was anything other than a Typr R for the Japanese market. It is a very nice car but not, imo, worth paying over the odds for.


Check out these threads (one of which is the official Japanese STi page) for info on power and Applied Model Codes etc.


Cheers,

Wayne (another E. Sussex Boy. Brighton.)


http://home.arcor.de/subaru-impreza/iAutoSTi.htm

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/product/impreza/list.html

[Lee_1075]

Hi Wayne, thankyou for your awnsers, :D the first linked site i know of well and understand it fully ;), the guy that runs that page (Frank) is a good friend of mine. He also states that the ID code for the WRX Type R V- Limited is "GC8E2DD". but the car in question has got "GC8E27D". I guess its better too wait out and hear what Subaru Japan says to that code.

Have fun at work and thanks for your help!.

P.S: Brighton :cool: ahh the Palace Pier and the seaside..... miss that now

Lee

[Rikimaru]

[quote=Lee_1075;27841] the first linked site i know of well and understand it fully ;), the guy that runs that page (Frank) is a good friend of mine. /quote]

Oh yeah, it's a german site.:D

Maybe you could ask him if he has ever heard tell of the "2 door Type RA" ;).

It's a very useful site either way and he's clearly done his research and knows his stuff.

[WhiteRAman]

I would not touch that car with a barge pole, although it does look like a very nice example.

It is still at the end of the day a WRX Type R V limited and not a mythical 2 door RA.

The Vin plate has clearly been tampered with and the one golden rule about buying cars is that any car that has had the Vin plate or it's ID tampered with in anyway you walk away from or in Lee's case do not even get on the ferry for:)

Have a look at this link:

http://www.type-ra.co.uk/vB/showthread.php?t=4696

This car belongs to a customer of mine, I am pretty certain it is still for sale so give him a call, this is his mobile number so you will have to add the UK dialling codes.

07949 653815 ask for Neil, he cannot always answer his phone as he is a teacher so just leave a message and he will return the call.

Ralph

[MYR58U]

Does anone here know the original specs for these cars, i.e what Turbo should be on it / Gearbox code etc etc.

G'day Lee, here are a couple of other links to back-up numbers you might find on other pages (you know how you can't trust only 1 webpage for factual information).

Car by transmission code
http://spda-online.ca/modules/tinycontent/rewrite/tc_28.html

Car by VIN code
http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/wrx.html

Car by engine code
http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/engine.html

[Lee_1075]

@ Wayne, ive asked in our German Subaru club forums, Frank the guy thats runs that German site hasnt awnsered yet. We have a member who lives in Tokyo and deals alot with Subaru parts etc, hes unsure too but has stated that the "7" in the modelcode means "RA". He says further that the correct model name for this car is indeed WRX Type R RA V- Limited if you translate the code, but is unsure as to why Subaru has coded the car this way as it has nothing in common with the full blown RA´s apart from the missing side skirts.

@ Ralph,
thankyou for the link, thats a great looking motor too. The fact that the VIN plate has been tampered with bothers me too, i just cant understand as to why the seller wont explain what happened to it.

@MYR58U,
thanks for thos links, but i think that site is causing this thread, i.e it states that this car is a special model 2 Door RA.

[Rikimaru]

He says further that the correct model name for this car is indeed WRX Type R RA V- Limited if you translate the code, but is unsure as to why Subaru has coded the car this way as it has nothing in common with the full blown RA´s apart from the missing side skirts..

Only problem with that is that i have an E-mail from Subaru Japan themselves stating that at no time did they ever make a 2 door Impreza that was anything other than a type R for the Japanese market. This is why there is such an issue over the Applied Model Code as it makes absolutely no sense if you translate it literally (the car is identical in every way to the Version 4 WRX Type R Ltd so far as anyone can tell) and is not listed on STi's own web site. They state that the only time there was a 2 door badged as anything diffferent was the Ltd edition STi made available to the Austalian market; the links by MYR58U show this particular car and it was only available in that year (1999), not 1997 as a Version IV. I guess you could also say the P1, except that was commissioned by Subaru in the UK and tuned especially by Prodrive tehmselves so makes that car a special case and was never available in any other market.

I'm still waiting for confirmation from Subaru on the Applied Model Code, but as nobody on the RA/R or Impreza Communities we are members of here have ever heard of, let alone seen, the car in question or it's dubious applied model code I'm still doubting It's existence.

[Lee_1075]

Only problem with that is that i have an E-mail from Subaru Japan themselves stating that at no time did they ever make a 2 door Impreza that was anything other than a type R for the Japanese market. This is why there is such an issue over the Applied Model Code as it makes absolutely no sense if you translate it literally (the car is identical in every way to the Version 4 WRX Type R Ltd so far as anyone can tell) and is not listed on STi's own web site. They state that the only time there was a 2 door badged as anything diffferent was the Ltd edition STi made available to the Austalian market; the links by MYR58U show this particular car and it was only available in that year (1999), not 1997 as a Version IV. I guess you could also say the P1, except that was commissioned by Subaru in the UK and tuned especially by Prodrive tehmselves so makes that car a special case and was never available in any other market.

I'm still waiting for confirmation from Subaru on the Applied Model Code, but as nobody on the RA/R or Impreza Communities we are members of here have ever heard of, let alone seen, the car in question or it's dubious applied model code I'm still doubting It's existence.

You and Matt (the other guy from Toyko in our forums) are saying the same thing really, if you translate the model code literally it will appears to be a WRX R-RA, athough no one knows if such a car exists. I should have written in my last post that he said its a WRX Type R V-limited but cannot explain the number 7 in the model coding. The only awnser he can come up with is the fact that this car has got no side skirts like the RA model.

[Rikimaru]

Just out of interest, what is your mate driving? I`m yet to come across a
non-Japanese WRX/STi driver in the Tokyo area. I know of one guy in a new age STi in Hachinohe (northern tip of Japan) and the guy from Okinawa on here (Islands beyond the southern tip of Japan) and I'm kinda stuck in the middle miles and miles away. Be cool if there was at least one other person of class and distinction in this town.

[Lee_1075]

Hi Wayne, sorry for my late reply but im on night shift.
Matt drives a MY00 GF8 Sti.

He got back to me today and according the JDM Subaru 2 FAST computer programe this car does exist. Its should have a Type RA gearbox and this is reflected within the model code, nothing more or less than that apart from the missing side skirts. Now i´ve got to find out why the car for sale has a loose VIN tag.

[Rikimaru]

OK, that's interesting. Nice work!

I'll hassle Subaru today for the information I've requested. This may at least explain the Applied Model Code. Still doesn't make it an RA, though it does make it unusual for want of a better word.
I'd still like to know how Subaru name this officially and what it was marketed as coz I can't find any brochures/catalogues that list a 2 door RA and Subaru themselves have said they never made it.

I think peoples main issue with this car is wether or not it can rightfully be called a Type R RA and allow people to charge a premium for that. Imo, if Subaru called/marketed it as a Type R RA then that's what it is, but if they don't call it a Type R RA then it aint a Type R RA; Its a Type R with a close ratio box in it for better or worse.

Maybe Subaru were low on STi boxes that week and this car is nothing more than an accident.;)

P.s.
Is your mates car a Version VI STi Ltd Sports Wagon (run of 500) in Sonic Blue Mica by any chance? If so he has a great car and my total respect. I have a soft spot for those and almost bought one before the RA as i have a dog. Best looking Impreza wagon ever made in my opinion. If not then he still has an awesome car. The late classic wagon STI's are all great cars. Just needs a respray.;)

[Rikimaru]

Went to the local Subaru (as in Subaru's own) local tuning shop and got them to check the FAST computer. They checked the car in questions VIN number on the computer (unique to that car so the info on the page is about that car and only that car: GC8-066177) and.....

...the applied model code for that exact car is GC8E27D so on that he is OK. But, the car is listed by Subaru as a WRX Type R V LTD. That is how it was sold and what it should be sold on as.

The guy at the shop also checked the parts that that car was given at the factory and it left the factory with a standard Type R box, not a type RA close ratio box. He then phoned someone in the know who explained that that model code is explained by the fact it has a Type RA chassis with a Type R shell and all the rest of the Type R stuff stuck on. The reason for this was that the V Ltd's that were loaded with all the optional extras (as RichB's car is) ended up weighing an awful lot so the chassis was switched to balance this out. Now this does tally with what the guy selling the car has said, but it still isn't an RA. Suabru are adamant that the car is nothing more or less than the VIN number indicates: A WRX Type R V Ltd.

I was always under the impression that the Type R had a stiffer chassis and that was what made them special. Why take away the major advantage of a Type R???

There you have it. I f anyone wants to see it, the guy at Subaru printed the page for this car off of the computer so there can be no dispute over this.

[rooferman]

Thats it then..........we knew we where correct....;) and the type r shell on the Ra chassis explains the model code.

Thanks Rikimaru......

[wrx_driver]

Looks like there are 2 ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Subaru-Impreza-WRX-Type-R-RA-V-Limited-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ220226747591QQihZ012QQcategoryZ18277 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Rikimaru]

There are more than 2 mate. They're just 2 of the ones known about in the UK.

[millsy]

i have on of these and my vin tag says my gear box is a ty752vb5ba which front what info i have found is the same as a wrx ra of the same age

[Lee_1075]

@ Wayne, no mate he hasent got the limited version of the GF8.

Are you sure about that with the chassis, ive got the 2 Fast programme here at home and it doesnt show up chassis types. I´ve asked Matt yet again, and this model is known in Japan only as a WRX R V-limited thats correct and everyone agrees apon that fact, yet he is 100% sure that it has a RA box.

[Rikimaru]

As i said, the guy at the shop called another guy in another dept who provided the answer to that one. The chassis answer makes as much sense to me as anything else and as far as i know I'm the only person that has an answer direct from Subaru Japan themselves on this. Though tbh I'm not sure they know exactly what is going on here. The RA box thing looks like it is also true but Subaru seemed to think it should have had a Type R box. The mind boggles:confused:

It seems to me that this is gonna go on until we are all blue in the face and i for one am not gonna be doing any more chasing. I still think that anybody listing this car for sale needs to be up front about the facts (or apparent lack of) regarding this car. They also need to list it as a WRX Type R Ltd NOT a Type RA R or any other permutation that Subaru Japan refuses to acknowledge. It may be a fairly Ltd run within a Ltd run ,with a couple of RA bits and bobs stuck on, but it still doesn't make the car a 2 door RA.

The problem here is that there is an issue over the naming of this car. People want to call it a 2 door Type R or a Type R "RA". The issue I and others have is that it simply is not either of those cars. If someone wants an RA then why not just buy an RA which is likely cheaper than this and can legitimately be called what it is; a Type RA. I don't feel this car warrants having a premium paid on it. It's a WRX Type R V Ltd that desperately wants to be something it isn't, and for not a lot more than he wants you could have a decent STi Type RA which is simply a better car.

[Lee_1075]

I Agree with you Wayne, this topic could go on for ever :rolleyes: , anyway im still thinking hard about buying the car as hes dropped the price, although the loose VIN tag puts me off. Biggest prob for me will be getting this car registered in Germany, as the classic Sti never existed over here.

Thanks for your help :D

Lee

[Rikimaru]

Wish you the best with it if you do bite the bullet. It is a very nice example (of whatever it is;)) and the close ratio box is a lot of fun:cool:.

Hopefully whatever you get will be the right car for you.